Is this an 'Original' Baby Rolleiflex 4 x 4 Model 4RF 411??

by **baby** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:00 pm

First of all- Hello everybody, I'm new to the rollieclub and to be honest quite thankful for it's existence, so thankyou for having me and I hope that people don't get upset with me If I ask any silly questions.. because I am a Rollei virgin who's just popped his Rollei cherry. So please be patient with my ignorance.

Now down to the nitty gritty; I just came into ownership of this, my first ever Rolleiflex- A Black Baby rolleiflex 4X4 and would appreciate any info on it. I have scoured the internet but was left in confusion between two models (after of-course checking serial numbers at www.rolleiclub.com ).

125.000* - 145.000*
Rolleiflex 4x4 3,5 model 1 - Prochnow
Baby 4x4 1931 Rolleiflex - Parker
3.5 Original Baby - Evans

127.000- 523.000
Rolleiflex 4x4 3,5 model 2 - Prochnow
Baby 4x4 1934 Rolleiflex - Parker
Black Baby (type 1 - Evans

The serial number is 1456**
- and the last two digits are missing but at closer inspection they look like 17 (possibly)..

so maybe serial is No. 145617.

Viewing lens reads - Heidoskop-Anastigmat 1: 2,8 f- 6 cm

Viewing lens Number - 132752

Focus lens reads - Tessar 1: 3,5 f= 6 cm

Focus lens number - Carl Zeiss Jena Nr. 1327345

Number under shutter release - 2392959

It was sold to me as an-

"Original Baby Rolleiflex 4 x 4 Model 4RF 411"
Early 1930s. Complete with original case-
Camera fully functioning but could do with an overhaul. Paintwork a bit battered & view finder magnifier (small magnifying glass) missing.
Has red window on the back.

But then I saw this one -http://www.Pacificrimcamera.com/pp/rollei/prebaby.htm which is different to my own so I'm just more confused than ever

Did I buy the right camera as advertised or did I buy a dud?

I would really appreciate any info in identifying the correct model and year and of-course if it has any real monetary value. I bought it to use it but if it is a rare model then I think I'll just baby it (excuse the pun) and only take out for exercise on occasion.

Thanks in advance to anyone who took the time to read all that and bother posting back.

P.S- I will take some photos soon and post them back up here in case the information I gave isn't enough.

by **JanBoettcher** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:38 am

To me two things become obvious:
a) all this serial number business is proven uselesss (again)
b) pacrims pic sucs - and probably they are showing the second model (with a display window for f-stop&shutter speed above the taking lens).

Best
Jan

by **baby** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:33 am

by **JanBoettcher** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:43 pm

Is this an 'Original' Baby Rolleiflex 4 x 4 Model 4RF 411??

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